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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 8:27 am    Post subject: THE SPIN DOCTORS ARE AT IT AGAIN
From Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:00 am to Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:59 am (included)
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It is amazing how the 9/11 families are always required to play by the rules but the same cannot be said for the city.

Last night the members of Community Board after seeing yet another presentation from the city and limited concerns from family members (one minute apiece) soundly defeated a resolution supported by the mayor to deny JPAC from the search and passed a resolution supported by the family to call on the mayor to bring JPAC in. (see article below)

Almost immediately the city reps led by Deputy Mayor Sklyer went into spin control.

Instead of admitting that they could use the additional help they started their PR machine immediately with excuses as to why they still would not call on JPAC.

They stated:

JPAC does not have the resources

JPAC is not trained to work in a city environment.

We already have the best team possible assembled and it would not be fair to pull JPAC away from other assignments.

So much for spin, here are some facts

At last months meeting the mayor’s representative stated that the mayor’s office was not even aware that JPAC had offered their services.

After a letter and press release addressed to the mayor was introduced by family members dated 10/20 stating “The Defense Department is open to bringing them (JPAC) here” that story changed.

All of a sudden they had spoken to JPAC but according to them JPAC did not have the resources.

In a letter to Commissioner Brennan dated 10/23 on of our family members stated:

In my civilian discussions with JPAC personnel over the summer, many of them have continuously stated that they are ready for this mission and would be honored to do so. If JPAC was not qualified to do a mission requiring fragments, which in actuality is only part of a possible New York mission, then my colleagues would not have indicated a willingness to go in anyway, nor would the M.A. personnel from Ft. Lee and Puerto Rico have been assigned the Pentagon cleanup mission after September 11 which, as you know, contained many of the smallest fragments. In fact, after recovering small fragments from the Pentagon, both military and civilian, mortuary affairs personnel had the remains transported to Dover, Delaware for identification and analysis and the occasional discarding of non-remains.

If basic mortuary affairs personnel can be trusted with the Pentagon September 11 mission, surely more advanced mortuary personnel such as JPAC can be trusted to assist in the New York City mission.

In regards to the city’s contention bringing in JPAC during wartime would be selfish is bogus. JPAC is a rotating duty. Most mortuary affairs personnel spend six months at Ft. Lee, VA (which is essentially HQ, six months at Dover (a coveted assignment), a year at JPAC, six months at the personal effects depot in Aberdeen Maryland (where we mail GI's stuff to the families); give or take. We consistently rotate again and again; most of us want to get away from HQ in Ft Lee and into the real deal.

JPAC as a unit has NEVER been in Iraq or Afghanistan because there we bring our boys home and there is no need for the unit. As such it does not take away from our capabilities. Mortuary Affairs personnel want any mission because for lack of a better term, we are always looking for work.

Finally in regards to the entire operation being under the control of the ME’s office and not influenced by the mayor:

Why was the report distributed to the press (and not the families) on 10/27 prepared by the DDC and the LMCCC and not the ME’s office.

One only has to look at this report that only requires a development of search protocols for future construction (not the current search) to see that there is a problem.

This has been the problem all along. Misinformation and changing the rules to suit their argument has always been there MO.

Just last night they stated that it was the ME’s decision to excavate the entire haul road and the site of the Greek Orthodox Church when everyone knows we have been calling for this since October.

Whenever we ask a question, such as why have we not been given a copy of the search protocols or why are remains being found under the haul road that your report states was excavated twice and was supposed to have been constructed with fresh fill we are always told the parties to answer those questions are not available at this time and we will get back to you. It has been 3 months and nobody ever gets back to us.

It is the same with the testing of the remains. Over 1,000 remains found this year and not one ID. We cannot even find out when and if they were tested.

If Community Board 1 had approved the mayor’s resolution the papers would have headlines screaming Lower Manhattan Community rejects JPAC involvement in search for remains.

We would have been forced to abide by their decision.

Why can’t the mayor’s office play by the same rules?

Put It Above Ground

NYC board backs military unit's help in Sept. 11 remains search


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